A Few Thoughts on: Justice League Set Visits

So, if you’re as deeply up the ass of the nerd press as I am, you saw today that a number got the chance to go and report from the set of Justice League, the upcoming sequel to 90s Dark Age of Comics revival act Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

While Batman v Superman: Darkness, No Parents wasn’t what we would traditionally call a failure, its mild box office success v what its expectations were is tempered by the fact that it has attained a popular life as a poorly edited, grimdark mess not faithful to its characters.

Largely because it is a poorly edited, grimdark mess not faithful to its characters.

So, in order to right the DCEU ship and pull Warner Brothers out of their death roll, there had to be a hard left turn away from Batman v Superman: Dusk of Snyder. So Warner Brothers invited a group of bloggers who were largely famously unfriendly to the film and gave them a look at the current progress of the film one month into shooting.

Here’s a few of the better ones:


We Just Visited The London Set Of ‘Justice League’ And Here’s What We Saw


But they’re all largely the same material. Here’s what interests me:


Look, I’m still probably a little too burned from Batman v Superman: We’re Seriously Using 9/11 Imagery to be able to speak about it objectively. All the love that Snyder has and apparent “understanding of what went wrong” that was on display there ended up amounting to jack fucking shit.

So, you know, excuse me if I’m not 100% convinced jussttt yet that things are being corrected.

That being said, there seems to be some understanding. This quote from Deborah Snyder

I think the darkest where we’ll be is where we’ve been.

seems to point towards an idea that these films will correct away from the violence and grimness that have characterized Snyder’s DCEU thus far. And coming from a film that featured a legitimate jump scare and a reenactment of 9/11 in Metropolis,this

Justice League is much more inclusive. I think also it’s all about the characters too. And we have these two very young characters, Flash and Cyborg. And you know, they’re definitely lighter. I think they’re going to appeal to a younger audience.

makes me feel better.

But feel better. We’ve not seen a damn thing from the film and I’m curious how much course correction could actually happen from a film that was in production the third week of Batman v Superman: Someone Probably Lost A Job.

The fact that they know what to say sounds good. But I really hope that actually translates into the execution.


All the above being said, the biggest disappointment in Batman v Superman: Super-not-friends was that the heroes seemed to have absolutely no chemistry. Seriously, they didn’t so much as share a friendly look, and these guys are supposed to be a team. Took some of the thrill out of seeing them on screen.

Thank god it seems like they’re actually gonna fix that.

Read the description of the Barry/Bruce scene. Look at how it actually sounds like they actually have…a dynamic. Back-and-forth, acting as foils to each other.

Read the description of the rooftop scene. Wonder Woman smiles seeing Cyborg show up. THERE’S A SMILE. INDUCED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

The fact is, there’s already clearly an idea that these characters need to interact. Comic books are character-based storytelling, about the heroes’ interactions and dynamics and growth, which is why Marvel Studios has been so successful.  DC Films finally seeming to get that picture is a positive step.


I’ve loved Ezra Miller since The Perks of Being a Wallflower so I’m super thrilled that we’re seeing him not only finally get a lead role, but one that was already impressing so many people.

But what seems to actually be a fun fact is a throwaway line in his scene with Batman

“That’s someone who looks exactly like me but isn’t me,” Barry says. “He looks like a very attractive Jewish boy. He drinks milk, though, I don’t drink milk.”

From the sound of things, this Flash may be a nice Jewish boy!

While Mike Ryan mentions this isn’t fully decided yet (it was an adlib by Ezra Miller), I can’t really see a reason not to leave it.

Mostly because this would actually make Flash the first actually canonically Jewish superhero in a movie.

Yeah, Magneto is Jewish, but he spends most of his time as a supervillain. Night Owl II in Watchmen is technically Jewish, but it’s not really a point within the film, and he wasn’t played by a Jewish actor either.

This would be a Jewish character played by a Jewish actor. Which is cool because few things are more Jewish than superheroes. Jack Kirby and Stan Lee created…pretty much everything Marvel and Jack Kirby created a crazy amount of DC, and they’re both Jewish folks. Bob Kane and Bill Finger created Batman.

The first superhero, Superman, was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster! Especially important considering, despite all the Christ imagery he’s been imbued with over the years, Superman is basically Moses! I mean, sent in a basket to a foreign land to be raised by the natural people and become a powerful leader.

So, yeah, Flash might be Jewish. Super cool.


Thank god. I was really worried they’d already use Darkseid. Steppenwolf, one of his more vicious generals, is a solid introduction to the 4th World mythos and gives us a chance to cut our teeth before getting into the bigger stuff. Really hope he doesn’t look like this guy though:

Also, if Steppenwolf is the villain…why the fuck did they cut this scene?


I’ve made no small bones about the fact that I don’t like Batman v Asshole: Dawn of Justice’s portrayal of Superman. He’s aloof and not terribly heroic. Also, he’s dead.

Hopefully his coming resurrection will lead to him getting fixed. It’s a super-easy potential for a soft reboot by bringing him back from the dead to make him feel more heroic due to the reflection that his death has caused. It’s also an easy way to narratively justify the changes they need to make in his character.

A lesson that needs to be taken through Justice League as a whole.